I can see needing keyboard focus for the “search” capability, but what about just simply implementing a tree structure? It would seriously make such a huge improvement in my ability to work in Renoise.
I think that with regards to the tree structure this way would be better as the user has control over the directories and could then for example put all his/her eq`s under one node.
As I see it there is much more flexibility in the latter option, although the first is not bad either. In effects case I propably still would favour the last one. I’ll propably make some favourites folder or smthing and then sort all others by manufactor, or sumthing like that.
I also think that using the real directory structure will be a big mess. So having them sorted after the manufactors (like in cubase) for now, will help a lot. We can still have this userdefinable structure later.
I was thinking about that too, but for me it would not be such a pain in the ass to arrange them. I understand your poin tho, and am pleased to see even the manufacturer-type of sorting. So pleeze, next Alpha?
What about neither though, but rather allowing a user to set up folders WITHIN renoise, a la Soundforge?
I would love to be able to creat a folder for “Delay Effects”, and then move the plugins I felt deserved that into those. This could be accomplished via a separate window which could be triggered by a “sort VST Plugins” button in the Config > Misc area maybe?
That directory structure maybe could just be stored as a header in the CachedVSTs.xml file -
I know that actually sorting the directory itself could cause installation problems, but having it rather be just Renoise-driven would solve that IMO -
Just my $.02 - but then, ANY solution would be better than the current one.
So that everything is in alphabetical order, frst manyfacturers, then VST’s under them? I’m sure u have better ideas for separators and headline highlights, the lines&spaces etc. are there just to illustrate the point.
Yup it could work that way, but I was thinking that maybe it is easier and faster to read if you don’t have too much lines starting with same text, although if f.ex. Native Instruments is shortened to NI, it definetly improves Korn’s option.
Not my idea, I’m just fine looking it as it is now. But maybr it would be useful to some people, and I think it would not change the usablitiy for me, so I made a suggestion, fearing that something like A.Korn suggested would came true.
But you got a point, actually it would make my list very messy, 'cause iI have many VST’s that are the only ones from the manufactor. Then my suggestion would be like very bad idea indeed.
U’re right bantai No sorting for instruments.
i totally disagree … if you haven’t a big list of VSTi there is no disadvantage for you too … and there is no overkill to sort the VST a little bit better …
every manufacturer makes special types of instruments - like spectrasonics: the great sample-players … and NI: great synths … so if i need a synth i think: let’s take something from the manufacturer XYZ … coz i know: this is what i need at the moment.
a list of VSTi can increase fast … you buy the bundle from NI (NI Komplete) here and the bundle from manufacturer xyz there … the next VSTi’s are bundled with soundcards etc. or what ever.
you are right: on the other hand there are hunderts of free VSTi’s with different names of the manufacturers but nevertheless i see no disadvantage if the manufacturer is shown too … it’s a help for people who using bundles from different manufacturers for a better overview … and no disadvantage for other people … it’s only a question of the menu/list layout to keep the overview - that’s all.
I bet many ppl (like me) have many single plugins - I mean only one plug from a certain dev installed. For these ppl sorting after developer would be a step into worse lands I guess.
Also not everyone has a good refined minimalised setup of a few good commercial plugs. Many have instead a big arsenal of freeware in their vst folder.
Personally I’d appreciate an optional index.txt file, this had the big advantage of being able to have redundancy in the list.