What do 3.3 really needs…

I wish pattern effect commands could be affecting each other in order.

Sometimes I want to RXX with a YXX without to have to explicitly trigger a note. So you can toggle effect commands in a group on and off procedurally.

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There are debs on some music specific repos. However I’ve been far away from Linux for too long to remember where. There’s a binary on this very forum as well. Check it out

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Hi @younix_2
I think 5 mins of googling should get you going just fine. This hasn’t anything to do with Renoise itself. If you are not comfortable with Linux, either learn some basics, or install another OS. I mean, imagine if you had to compile it and collect all requirements. Or you had some dependancy missmatch or whatever really… It’s easy as it is for now. (at least from my perspective). If you are not comfort with Linux as well as googling, you should invest some time if you plan to use Linux. How did you use Linux 10 years ago? Did you even use terminal at all? Is Linux really for you? those are the questions you should ask yourself i think. What if i was using other distro than .deb derrivatives? should developers make binary for every distro available? I don’t think so, as i think their time is more valuable at improving sampler for examples and fixing bugs rather than making something that is already just fine. As i’ve mentioned, if Linux is not your thing, re-think your choices… For most of linux guys it’s easier and more efficient actually firing one-liner into command line rather than clicking into software updater/etc

Cheers & sorry if it sounds harsh

I see this as a great benefit. I miss it from working with ableton for example, down it’s midi, up it’s mixers (or opposite like in picture), or in reaper where it’s same, both in the same view.I would like this view as well, it would spare me clicking/pressing shortcuts to switch tabs since my 13’ is small for both tabs to be open at the same time. You could use one screen to edit/insert notes and adjust effects and all within mixer. Really a huge benefit for my workflow

Preemptive message : let’s not got into a Linux vs X debate.

We all know the pros and cons of each os, and I bet there are 20456 topics about that in here anyway :smiley:

:slight_smile:

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Yeah, I feel that now we have detachable mixer, the next big use case would be a mixer matching the tracks in the effect bar…

To be perfect we should be able to detachable the effect panel

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yeah i would add to your picture the fx slots of channels so it’s all self-contained in one screen. Amazing idea, never thought of it until i saw picture :slight_smile:

That’s not the way to do it IMO. Just add rotary dials to the instrument list, clicking the midi box next to an instrument name would mute it (and show an x in it), alt clicking it would solo it. rotary dials for volume and pan would go on the far right. no need to to waste so much screen estate by adding a whole mixer section at the bottom.

I beg to differ because it breaks the separation of concern principle.

Also, a given instrument may be used in many tracks with many effects and levels configurations. The volume knob in instrument panel is just there for gain staging (ie pre-mixing), not for mixing

If you notice the way I did the picture, it’s simply a tab in the bottom window we have already with a mini mixer in it. First and second tabs for track fx and automation, third tab for mini-mixer.

Also, someone was asking about being able to see levels while they’re viewing the pattern editor (like in OctaMED) - this would not only make that kind of thing feasible cuz you get meters but being able to do simple level corrections while editing multiple channels is useful. Additionally, these naturally would be master track faders after fx, something which your solution would not do either.

Beyond my own wishes, I vote for VST3 support!!
(This thread needs a poll, right?)

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Come to think of it, there is one (probably straightforward) huge time saving feature:

In Bitwig, much like in Renoise, you can see all the automation parameters in the plugin chain for VSTs. However, the first fader/knob in the plugin chain automatically changes to whatever you are using in the GUI.

This has saved me ungodly hours of searching through pages of params when I need to find the Q filter or threshold for frequency band 12 in say Pro-Q. Just fiddle with the thing I want to change, and it appears at the top of the automation parameters in the plugin chain. If something like that could be implemented in Renoise it would make handling plugins with dozens of pages of parameters much faster

@Shane_Turner there are actually tools for that.

For example this tool has the functionality you might be looking for with it’s “G” Button (I think, not sure, not used it myself yet):

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Oh great, I gotta check that out later thanks!

audio rate modifiers , actual phase modulation/FM synthesis etc , etc…

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expansion on the native DSPs

for one example, a filter parameter on the delay DSP

Have you played around with the Multitap Delay?

It has a built-in filter and functions just like the standard Delay device if you silence taps 2-4 (by setting their Input Source levels to -INF).

Be sure to hit the [>] button on the device to show all of its parameters, in case you hadn’t noticed them yet.

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Was not aware, thanks for the info :+1:

Vst3 would make lotz of us very happy.:cowboy_hat_face:

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Ok, we are all einig, we need vst3.
Ich mag reason 11, but i use nur renoise yet, auch wenn i pay 250€ to reason 11 Suite. Now i want to use the reason devices inside renoise.

So i dont know what we need else.

Maybe for people, welche piano roll want to use:
There is in downside a Button for automation. In this section can build a piano roll Button, that works the same way like automation in the unteren window.

An sonsten ist das Programm perfekt