Plugins are all scaled way small, and this does seem to be the inverse of the UI scale setting. Sadly, setting my global UI scaling to 100% is not an option. I’ll explain:
Sadly this solution will not work for me since using 100% UI scaling on my built-in HiDPI display makes everything else far too tiny to use. I only have this one display.
Is there another possible solution, please? Super unfortunately, this is preventing me from using Renoise as my primary DAW. I can pretty much only use it for sample slicing and patterning right now. I would love for this to work again. At least now the problem is more consistently happening. Most especially with Vital.audio plugin and with Roland’s plugins.
Cool, reloading it right now. When I changed the setting originally it loaded “properly”. I put that in quotes because I was checking to see if a single plugin (Vital) was scaleable, which it’s supposed be… interestingly, the plugin loaded on first load as the proper size and the window itself allowed scaling. Upon re-loading the plugin in the same Renoise instance, the window looks as above and is no longer scalable.
I’ll reply in a min with what happens on a reload of Renoise. Thank you much for your help!!
Right, yeah, on reloading Renoise, sadly the same results. I checked the plugin settings and it didn’t revert. I kinda hoped it had so that the explanation would be easier.
Are you on Mac?If so there is a thread about something with the RGB profile or something like that ,that you need to change but I am not on Mac so search the forum for Mac problems.What is your PC monitor?My monitor has a scale option on its own maybe yours has that option too so change it if that is the case.Make sure you have the latest vital version or if you do try downloading an older version you never know it could work.
I wish I was on a mac sometimes haha. Apparently the audio processing is way better natively. Alas. I’m not a mac guy.
I am on a PC. I have a built-in display on my laptop. The resolution is set to native, which is a ridiculous number of pixels …
Resolution: 3840 x 2160
Scaling: 250%
If I change the scaling to 100% then I need bifocals to see the screen hahaheh
If I set the resolution lower then I get blurs on lines and things, cause anti-aliasing. I could disable anti-aliasing but that means jagged lines everywhere…
These are all totally reasonable things to suggest for sure, and if I do all these things then it works. I suppose I could be really really disciplined with Renoise and set these things every time I want to use it and then only use Renoise, and then set them back when I’m done… dang. I’m not that disciplined though. I blame my father haha I’ll could write a .bat script to set these things and then open Renoise perhaps?
I might try an earlier version of Renoise. I feel like this is a kind of recent problem.
I don’t think it’s Renoise problem.Vital is buggy on high resolutions as helm vst was from the same developer.Try scaling of 150 I have my screen at 125 and have no problems.Also did you make any changes in windows regarding font size ?
No, my font size is default. I’ll check the 150 or 125 scaling resolutions and see if its livable/readable…
FWIW in the other 3 DAWs I have this problem doesn’t happen, but that may just come down to a difference in addressing or which methods are used of the Windows API.
Oh man, at 150% it’s really hard to read. I still can, but it’s not really usable…
Here’s a Roland 909 at 150% scale, for counter balancing the testing:
And then here at 250% scale
You’re absolutely right about scaling issues in Vital. That is a thing, for sure.
It’s a slightly different, but very similar issue with Roland plugins. They sometimes appear correctly, and sometimes are like Vital, and sometimes the window is actually the same size as the display, just way too small (as in the screenshot.)
I suppose it’s possible that it’s all these plugins themselves, but seems more to be some interaction between Renoise and these plugins, like it’s really both of them not playing well. FWIW they do work fine in ableton, bitwig, and maschine.
Damn I really want this to be a setting I can configure. I feel like I’m still missing something maybe… ?hrmmmmm
I think for now this is what I’ll have to do.
I will see about borrowing a monitor or getting a portable secondary display (as I’m away from home right now)
Following the advice there, I changed Windows scaling down to 100% and closed the plug in and renoise. I then restarted renoise and loaded the plugin. This worked but then was smaller than I would like. I then set scaling back up and reloaded and the plugin seems to work at the correct scaling. It just means restarting a couple of times
Yes, that’s unfortunately a pest. There’s no “official” way on how to deal with the UI scaling on Windows in VST plugins, so every plugin handles this differently and every host does so to.
In practice many plugins will behave different on different hosts, just to get things working. That’s also why we have this “Auto-Scale” option. In case the option does not work, the only way to get the plugin working correctly is asking the plugin developers to fix/tweak this on their side. There’s nothing which we can do to magically make all plugins work here.
haha I’ll could write a .bat script to set these things and then open Renoise perhaps?
