Wishes for next releases

UPdate for the envelopes (both ahdsr and graph), it still bugs me that you can’t do fast attack between 0-100 ms
The filter will only start to really go to full 100 % around 80-100 ms ( when zero decay and sustain ) .
This has been reported 8 years ago so I kind of have given up hope for faster envelopes
The added tension curves are great , so the develoeprs are certainly listening to userr requests

Better filters
Option for the sat stage TO NOT affect the envelopes ouptput , in it’s current form the sat is POST filter /envelope and thus shaping the evelope’s final shape output .
Also more poles for the filters in the instr.editor , some of them are only 2 p
All in all it’s the software I keep coming back to , renoise and loomer architect are my favourite weapons for sequecing

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+1 for more responsive envelopes and more flexible filter architecture and more filter types :+1::+1::+1:

Still my must have is parallel routing and modulation in/out in doofers. This would be huge huge

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to be able to turn off pattern follow, but have it switch patterns automatically.

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I wholeheartedly agree
My journey with Renoise started sometime in March 2020 (right as the pandemic hit), and as jokingly that I’ve been making remarks of tfw no update since last year, it’s a little sad to see no consistency with updates and support (outside of forum and Discord servers).
As @moloko has stated, the software is capable of much more, especially with their point of introducing a new generation of musicians, beatmakers, producers etc etc;.
Now, I’m not asking for it to be as consistent as say, Reaper, but, it would be nice at least once every nine months, or like a little update like, "Hey, we’re listening to your input/feedback, especially with bugs (cough cough midi_import).

At this point, it feels as if the forum can sometimes be like if we’re talking to a brick wall instead (in terms of receiving communication from devs).
One key point I’d make is, open up positions for some programmers who actually would be able to take into account the bugs, feature requests (that are reasonable).

But who knows, I’ve probably drained your retinas from my nonsensical blabbering.

Regards,

  • Bloodclot
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Taktik simply should work for Bitwig, adding a tracker editor and optimizing / hardware-accelerating their components and adding better ideas. This would fix 99% of world problems.

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he would have to fix their graphics library first. I find Bitwig very unresponsive on slightly older machines.

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I would love a native alternative pattern sequencer, with “islands”, like NerdSEQ. The current one feels to me like the only bit of Renoise where the UX really falls down. It’s too conditional and far too mystery meat with regards to how elements work.

Sure, it’s functional after you spend long enough clicking and dragging around at bits of it, but you’re way too dependent on implied UI function and it guessing what you want. It feels far too approximate, compared to the rest of Renoise, which tends to be direct and zero bullshit.

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But I… but I would like a new homepage. www.renoise34.com.

Alright, here’s my wishlist, which should cover everything…

No brainers and general requests:

  • External audio FX device to be able to use outboard gear. Should include automatic delay compensation.
  • Support for audio input to instrument plugins. (See: Support for routing audio to instrument plugins)
  • Add the possibility to modify slopes of the Curve envelope as well, just line in the Lines mode! Currently for complex shapes you need to create multiple segments and adjust the slopes manually by eye, which is a bit tedious and time consuming.
  • The Doofer device could use a lot of improvements, such as band splitting, parallel FX chains and built in dry signal mixing. In other words bring it to at least the same level as Live’s “Audio Effect Rack”.
  • Crossfading around loop-points in the built-in sampler.
  • Granular synenthesis in the built-in sampler.
  • Built-in arpeggiator and generative note sequencing functionality (think: MIDI effects in Ableton Live).

Improvements to DSP devices:

  • Better oversampling filters to relevant devices (filter devices, distortion), currently the cutoff is set way too low (starts cutting before 17kHz already) and the response is not steep enough. The FIR kernel could just be longer, honestly. This is a really bad flaw imo, since the oversampling filter cuts the high frequencies too severely.
  • The distortion in the analog filter doesn’t sound good, since it seems to be just a saturator at the filter output. Would be better to integrate the nonlinearity directly into the filter structure, although I understand it’s challenging with the ZDF filter topologies. It’s still possible though, since it’s been done before, and would be a huge upgrade to the built-in filter sound :slight_smile:
  • Non-cramping EQ filters. At least something similar to the Orfanidis filters should be the minimum standard these days. Also optional spectrum visualization, M/S mode, “adaptive Q”, possibly a steepness setting alongside just the standard 12db/oct filters, etc.
  • Optional multiple taps to the chorus device. Also optionally more analog sounding implementation, since there’s been some solid papers on this recently, and other manufacturers have made their implementations available.
  • Better reverbs. The current options are seriously dated and provide limited control.
  • Same with the compressors. I can’t say what’s exactly wrong with them technically, but I always found them to sound extremely unsatisfying. Also could use much better visualization, including things like gain reduction history graph.
  • There should be more comprehensive utility tools available. E.g. there’s no M/S matrixing built in at all, or the ability to swap L/R channels.
  • A proper ping-pong mode in the Multitap delay. The “Ping Pong” option which according to documentation just swaps the L/R channels on repeating echoes, which is not what ping-pong delay is.
  • Missing devices: pitch shifter, better saturation device, resonator type device (not talking about just a comb filter), vocoder.

Maybe some day…

  • Audio tracks with waveforms visualized.
  • A horizontal arranger view.
  • An API to make native DSP plugins for Renoise, including the same UI components available to the current native devices. A bit like what Max For Live enables, but without Max, I’d be happy with just C++.

EDIT: a couple more after reading other people’s suggestions:

  • “Really truly disable effect/plugin/device without any PDC”.
  • More than ±100ms of static track delay.
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A detach editor option similar to the detach mixer or instrument editor. It’d use a vertical monitor as a secondary display and it works well when working in the editor. I’d be nice to designate that monitor for just the editor panel and I can keep the main renoise window on my main horizontal monitor.

Fixing various VST / VST3 plugin issues :pray:

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At this point I just wish for an update lol (also everything @noby said. For real)

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Renoise FX Devices with a Diagrams and/or Pegelmeters should have always a Viewmode “graphics only” like the Renoise EQ Devices. This would give the ability for Doofers with Macro automatising and graphical Feedback. I prefer the big round Macro knobs because they are more ergonomic quicker and easyier to use in most situations.

This is cool…

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But to see when Compressor is going interventing we need expand the Comp to see the Levelmeter and get this unergonomic and bad usable Doofer View. You see the Macro programmer buttons disturb the readability of the Macro buttons values and the Comp faders are unneeded redundant.

Not so cool…

But if we had graphical only mode for all Devices with any diagrams/pegelmeters we could have this.

Very Cool…

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happy tracking :slight_smile:

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Indeed the doofer device could be heavily improved by adding simple extensions, e.g.:

  • Macro controls only mode + vu view
  • More macros, 16 instead 8
  • Sidechain input
  • Support for vst3 parameter scaling
  • Small knobs view, two rows
  • More space for value and label display / smaller font / less space waste
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Wishes… hopes… dreams… unfathomable hopelessness…

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Parallel chains in doofer would be a gigantic improvement as well

I’d love modulation input/output routing as well. Then renoise would have greatly enhanced modular functionality

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  1. Audio bending in the sample editor. It feels like it’s lacking, Renoise being a sampler centric sequencer. Not something I personally would use a lot (other than for tweaking loops), but it’s available in every other arranger nowadays.

  2. Some solution to the inherent visual problem of 80-FF delay values.

  3. A toggle to flats. Is this oversight some kind of meme, I wonder…

Edit: oh yeah… and the parallel routing.

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Real automatable Track mute in both states “OFF” and “MUTE” directly and not over any Gain/Metadevices workarounds that don’t sound the same.

  • the ability to record mute states changes live while Playback/Record runs.

happy tracking :slight_smile:

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I think sending audio from right to left is not possible in general for instance for side chaining. Is there a workaround beside moving all the tracks?