So I’ve asked this in the beginners questions section, and think that since there’s no answer to get what i wanted, im going to make it an ideas and suggestions thread (+:
Anyway, I think it’d be amazing if Renoise allowed you to assign individual samples (not instruments, because you can already do that)to its own track. lets say ive generated a drumkit within the Renoise sample keyzones or lets say that i’m using one of Renoise’s drumkits such as the 808kit for examples sake. Now I have all of the samples mapped to my drumpad and wanna start recording live, but i dont want all of the samples im triggering on one track. instead i could play my drumpad with all of the samples recorded to their own track. That way after im done recording, i can then apply effects to each of the samples/tracks or edit them with ease and it keeps things more organized ;]
Maybe this could be done by right clicking on the sampled keyzone where your sample is and in the dialog box there’d be an option that says “assign to track x”
Does anyone else agree that this would definitely boost productivity and make recording/song making super efficient? I’m not even sure if any other DAW has this capability, and if that’s so then this would definitely have Renoise ahead of every other DAW in my opinion.
I’d really enjoy something like this. Especially when I’m sequencing drums or something, It’d be so much easier to put EVERYTHING on one track, and not have to bounce around making sure that individual drum hits are on their own tracks. +1
i guess with all of the effort i put into making this thread, i still explained poorly :’(
im suggesting the complete opposite of what you’re saying haha! i want each drum sample on it’s own track, not everything on one! so like after im done recording my drumloops live, each drumhit/sample will be placed in its own track. this would be useful for mixing and apply effects to your drum sounds, because if you have EVERY drum sound on one track then all of the sounds are manipulated if you add an effect to the track and i dont want that. i wanna be able to have full control over each drum sample with ease.
The live solution is not suitable for real-time purposes unless you don’t mind walking the risk that the GUI thread will miss a note slamming position once in a while.
I would have to look into it, i recall that the note-mapper was originally written for 2.7 so i did a raw update of the tool with minimal checking.
It was meant as an example-tool for scripters to extent from, hence it is not on the tools page in general.
Recording should be done with pattern edit mode turned off, else you get double notes in the pattern.
A quick test i learn that notes bound to track 1 and 2 work, but not beyond that, so i will have to look into it if i get the time to it, that won’t be earlier than the weekend and the weekend is pretty much fully booked with activities as well, so i hope i don’t forget.
the keyboard was the only thing to work for assigning the note to the tracks, but when i tried on my padkontrol nothing comes up, yet the tool does recognize that my padkontrol is connected. also it only assigned the notes to one track so it was totally ineffective. i’m not a scripter or have any knowledge on scripting so i wouldnt know how to add to the tool. I do greatly appreciate your efforts though. Thanks bud!
After a fresh new start of Renoise, i fail to reduplicate the situation.
I can use both keyboard and midi device to assign notes to multiple tracks and i can also record them.
Only when using the plain keyboard, you don’t hear the actual input while recording whereas the midi device ofcourse triggers the sample.
I tried to leave some tracks unprogrammed to see if there was a culprit, but no issues arised when attempting to test the tool.
You can not assign the same note/key to multiple tracks though, well you can assign, but only the first track it is bound to will be used for it.
I’m not sure what kind of notes your pad provides, the script contains a “globals.lua” with a nr_debug value that is set to “false”. If you change it to true, it will print what it receives from your midi device to the terminal output. (given that you have enabled the scripting editor and terminal option (scripting developer tools) for Renoise as described here: https://code.google.com/p/xrnx/ )
If you set it to learn it will also describe the note and octave and notenumber in the settings.
Perhaps your pad is assigned to a specific instrument in the Midi-in properties of that instrument… Or you are already using your midi device in Duplex. There might be situations where double assignments of your midi device might lead to disruption of message receival.
really appreciate your favor for the idea. i wish more people would hop on the bandwagon so itll actually happen by the time renoise 3 is released lol. i doubt it will happen, but a man can dream cant he?
I really thought I already said this here; I voted though. It’s a shame that the ‘standard mixer destination’ exists for VSTi’s but not for Renoise sample instruments.
Seems like it does fit the bill of what yung was looking for
i want each drum sample on it’s own track, not everything on one! so like after im done recording my drumloops live, each drumhit/sample will be placed in its own track. this would be useful for mixing and apply effects to your drum sounds, because if you have EVERY drum sound on one track then all of the sounds are manipulated if you add an effect to the track and i dont want that. i wanna be able to have full control over each drum sample with ease.
Sampler effects fits it to a T …aside from each sound needing to be on its own track.
This can be controlled through a LUA tool. Each sample is assigned a range of notes (Keyzones). It can be one note or several contiguous notes. Each note range can be routed to a specific track. OSC could be used to record notes and make them sound too. Maybe some expert LUA programmer is willing to build it…
However, I think this should be under the hood. Renoise covers this with routing the tracks in the sampler’s effect chains. All notes are written on the same track but they sound on other tracks (on routed tracks).
But the user will want to have the notes arranged on different tracks by playing a single instrument. This would be another one of those details that would help to perfect the tracker, instead of focusing on other things like the native creation of a piano roll, which is something in high demand and that will never happen.
I guess I’m not understanding the distinction based on what I’m reading. You want the audio playback for each sample to be directed to its own track? The output routing allows for this.
@Achenar here’s the detail. I’m going to use a drum kit based instrument with multiple samples in it. I want to configure Renoise that when I start real-time (live - not step by step) recording, I want my kick drum events to be recorded in one track, I want my snare drum events to be recorded in another track and so on. it isn’t an audio routing thing, it’s a live recording thing.
Where this feature being missing is best observed is when you try to lay down a drum track by focusing on just the kicks, then moving to the next track and focusing on the snares etc. The end product is ok. But then you try ad-libbing a drum grove using the keys or pads. The latter sounds better and is more creative and fluid. But you can’t get that without jumbling all the trigger events into one track.
