Can AI make a song?

Generic garbage.

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Mixed in Renoise?

indeed.
mixed in R, some Nexus5 instruments added, polished to my taste.

I am sure Sun is trolling guys and he is making tracks long time before AI like Suno appeared, but i will have to agree that we cant call these songs ours if we just pushed a button and puplished it .

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do you think an AI will be able to use Renoise one day?

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Yes

Maybe, maybe not. He never posted anything that’s AI free, so who knows. And he thinks that typing words and pushing buttons is a “skill”, which is weird and suspicious. He obviously doesn’t even feel embarrassed about posting AI generated music and labeling it as his own music, right? Anyway, he can do whatever he wants. I just didn’t expect to see someone posting AI created music in a creator’s board, which kinda sucks.

No.

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of course it will, AI can play video games, browse website, there is nothing that is blocking it to be able to use renoise like a top 1% pro.

but the real question you should ask is why would you bother, just generate music straight from the AI box.

i really think people have no clue what AI is capable of.

If suno existed 30 years ago we would be millionaires :smiley:

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we would have Super intelligence and either live in techno utopia or skynet dystopia. :sweat_smile:

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Why are you sharing things “you made” using Suno? Just to be clear, if you use AI at all it casts doubt as to how much you actually did and I, for one, will never appreciate the end result.

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I haven’t seen much good work yet, but I’m sure some interesting stuff will be done in time.
I think it is basically a matter of the people using it.
There is a difference in meaning between someone’s work using AI being boring and the entire body of work using AI being boring.
But I oppose AI in general because I believe it has obvious harm to humanity.
There is no reason why a well-developed AI should benefit a super low-functioning insect-like entity like us.
I see a danger in people using AI technology without such fear.

Ever hear of a little thing called false equivalence? Look it up. Use whatever technology you want, but do not fool yourself about your “creations”. I am no luddite, but seriously, AI is just the most generic sounding, low effort, built-on-the-back-of-stolen-art bullshit to have been created in my lifetime.

Would you be honest about how much of your “creation” is AI? Out of curiosity.

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What if we have clue about what AI is capable of, but simply didn’t care?

Life and Nature are so beautifully complex, mysterious… The outside world is big, vast, greater than the Human potential to fully grasp and experience it.

Why would I care about media produced by AI when I’m living such complex reality?

Emotions are impossible to describe or compute in an objective way. The mere concept of emotion implies subjectivity.

AI produces media, generic and commodified, not Art.

It confuses Art with a competition, a pointless race.

Why would I race?

It’s not about how many tracks I can produce, or how quickly I can do it. It’s how about how I express myself and interact with the reality around me. A chaotic, complex and somewhat beautiful reality.

I think people are forgetting the world outside computers and what it has to offer us. People are killing Art as a way of experiencing and expressing reality. It’s just media. Vanity. Like smoking cigars in form of audio.

I pity those who cannot experience the world outside and express their subjectivity through Art.

Call me nihilistic, but it’s simply pointless to use AI in Art. It makes sense in a market logic, where productivity and effectiveness is everything, and rationality the guiding light. But is Art really like that? Again: What is the point?

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dude you act like what is produced by humans is on the level of Beethoven.

you have quite the high opinion of yourself to even dare make such a comparison,
not the one to twist a knife but you make ACID buddy, get back down on Earth a bit.

at least AI does not have such an inflated EGO.

Dude, you really seem to hate humans. Why are you on a forum talking to them instead of your pal Chat GPT?

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I think this shit is hilarious

“every day i gotta woooooork downtown, I’m drowning in the traffic jam” :skull:

but this one is kind of lovely if a bit disconnected from reality:

in all seriousness, art is process. In really compelling works of art I often marvel or wonder as much about the process of creation as I do about the finished work. If the crux of art is a sustained act of creation, how does the use of AI interface with that process? I think there is absolutely a place for the use of AI in creative work, but if the act of creation itself gets offloaded to the tool intended to facilitate the creative process, then the point of creating in the first place gets lost, no?

I mean, I use AI for visual art all the time, and don’t feel bad about it, but if I was a visual artist primarily I certainly wouldn’t use an AI generated image as an end point in the creative process.

Tools are tools. What you create depends on how you use them. I wouldn’t want to write a prompt for a finished piece of music because that would rob me of the best part of creativity, the process of stumbling through, finding inspiration, making fortuitous discoveries, scrapping ideas, that lead to other, better ideas… you get the gist.

I think there’s a place for it, just like there’s a place for power tools and robotics. As long as we use them to empower our humanity and not disempower it. Which is easier said than done, of course.

There are free websites where you can choose a voice, choose a music style, choose some key words, and the AI generates a song for you, musics and lyrics, something like 3 minutes, and the visual that come with it. And I can say that it’s not worse than most of the mainstream crapy songs of the years 2020+. So the answer to the question “can AI make a song” is defo YES. Welcome in the AI era because it’s already here.

Can AI make me dinner and suck my knob? No? NEXT!!!

Not yet, but you can bet good money they’re working on it

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