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Can’t change em kaneel… just gotta hope they dun fry their brains, put themselves through hell, or waste their potential.
This topic is for Mdma experiences and such. If you are anti-drugs you have nothing to do here. Your replies will not influence us in any way. Why bother posting?
Drugs are bad for you, except in Holland.
i take drugs, cos they make me cooler.
Only the uninformed are entirely against all drugs. That said, both Kaneel and I posted 3rd party information that was very valid to the conversation, was very specific to MDMA. If you can’t handle constructive criticism, don’t participate in threads such as this. 
drugs are bad…
I’m sorry but, what? Why would you want people to do that?
dun = internet shorthand for “don’t” …
just gotta hope they don’t fry their brains, put themselves through hell, or waste their potential.
I don’t see how meaningless and provocating posts can be critism 
c’mon you guys, take a chill-pill
drugs=fun time 
How is showing genuine concern for you guys meaningless or even provocating? I really don’t understand your reasoning here.
Actually, I read your post wrong. Yes, the “dun” part…
Also, I was in a bad mood. My apologies…
I would not call that meaningless and provocative but rather persuasive in a discipline manner.
If we truly separate the requirement of drugs in a human’s life there is only one good reason for temporary purposes. The only place where i see drugs being applied for a good reason are hospitals and your bathroom medicine closet.
Drugs for fun is solely on the benefit of your personal leisure but as well risky.
I personally would not dictate anyone to keep their hands off of drugs, but i would highly recommend to get themselves informed so that they can make a well considered decision regarding taking drugs.
If one is going to treat drugs like alcohol, drug-abuse is not far away yet: the only difference to alcohol is that with drugs, the amounts to overdose and get oneself seriously damaged or even killed, are far lower with a lot of drugs than that you have to go with alcohol. You don’t even have to be addicted to drugs to be capable of killing yourself with them.
Another thing is:a lot of drugs are highly addictive and it may take as much as one shot to get you hooked.
Some drugs are not addictive at all for most people and some also don’t have the same impact when used for a second time within a few weeks (Like mushrooms which is imho one of the drugs that i consider safe for experimenting). If one wants to experiment with drugs but never used:buy non-addictive stuff and take care you get stuff that has not been tampered with so you also need to find out which dealers are recommended.
All these are just opinions and well meanted recommendations, not provocative insults.
Provocative insults those follow when you get addicted and not only mess up your own life but also that of your family and your friends.
If you don’t care about family or friends then just simply cut yourself loose from them and make the decision.
I think anyone is smart enough to make a wise decision before he/she starts… when already involved too deep, decisions on that ground are usually very biased and certainly not that rational anymore.
Alcohol is also drugs. It’s just accepted by our society.
You can kill your lungs with weed, or your liver with beer.
I don’t understand how you can say that you’re an addict
if you treat drugs like alcohol. Smoke a blunt every other day
or drink beer every other day. It comes down to the same thing.
The body gets accustomed to the substance over time. You need
more to get the same effect. The signs of addiction are clear when
you need a beer or a spliff to feel okay. Saying that most drugs are
addictive with one shot is not true.
In the end, alcohol kills more people than speed, mdma, weed and
mushrooms all rolled into one. You don’t have to be an addict to get
an alcohol overdose. Better yet, people who die of alcohol-overdose
are often inexperienced drinkers.
Hard-drugs like cocaine or heroin are supposed to be highly addictive.
However, you need a LOT of money to become a coke-addict. It’s very
expensive and you need to do it on a regular basis to get addicted.
Heroin is indeed a demon. Mushrooms are comparable to LSD and are
fucking intense. A WHOLE LOT MORE intense than amphetamine or mdma.
Drugs are not bad. Animals use drugs, too. It’s a natural thing to seek
leisure in mind-expansion. Overdoing something is bad. Whether it is
chocolate, vitamin B, work, pleasure… We have prosperity and it allows
us to overdo something, as opposed to sewer rats, who have a hard
enough time to just survive day by day. THAT is the danger: temptation.
I’m not saying we should all be snorting K on the weekends, I’m saying
that some people are doing overly dramatic, based on questionable experience.
Don’t judge books by what you heared about them.
I’d like to add, this topic is not about (more dangerous )drugs like cocaine, heroine and all that. This is about mdma. Obviously you’ve seen too many news items which simply magnify the “bad side” of ecstacy. The truth is, people passed away due the use ecstacy didn’t actually die from the substance itself, but rather combinations with it. NO drug is save if you start making coctails. This is a fact.
Example: A while ago there was a news item on TV about a girl who jumped off a building in Amsterdam. They claimed it was caused by the use ecstacy. WRONG! They don’t tell you she just gulped a liter of wodka an hour earlier, and smoked her ass off in the coffeeshop wile rolling! This is just creating false images…
I’m so shocked by the fact that people wasting themselfs with alcohol is perfectly fine, but if you take one pressed pill you’re the devil. Not to mention drunk people cause trouble, people on mdma simply do not.
I’m not trying to glorify drug use, but the way people look at certain things is just short-sighted.
75-ish years of this miserable shit with pretty much the same conciousness? Fuck that! Our receptors, transmitters and genitals are all there to be played with until the tedium breaks.
“Boredom is a disease worse than cancer. These substances cure it with few or no side effects if taken as directed.”
-The occasionally great Doug Stanhope
That’s because you misinterpreted the context:
“is not far away” == “a high possibility of getting there”
It just means in the sense like if you easily drink several glasses of alcohol on an evening in common, there is a risk of developing addiction. The same goes for various forms of drugs, not all. But it goes for food as well (and in some cases for gaming also).
Anything that you consume in a high frequency on a daily basis will become a habit. When things become a habit, addiction is being developed. I want to emphasize the higher risks involved with drugs in general in contrast to other habits.
Ofcourse, drugs and alcohol never go fine together, also some drugs and sugars can be a nasty combination.
I did not stated that either:
Cocaine does not necessarily gets you hooked with one shot or one line.
Heroine however has that risk.
In the end most people get killed by car accidents and cancer. Currently this is death-cause no #1 worldwide. I did not brought in alcohol to prove how far you can go to kill yourself.
I just say in general if you want to experiment with drugs:consider and inform yourself. Mdma may not be that dangerous, drugs like LSD, crack or heroine are, yet the packages do not tell you how dangerous drugs are while a bottle of beer and a bottle of vodka both tell you how much % alcohol it contains. Cigarette packages also tell you what the consequences may be.
Mushrooms are not addictive, and when used wisely, you can more or less keep control of your trip.
With LSD that is a different story… it kicks you in a corner and keeps you there. If your trip is good then it is all great, if it is a bad trip, you have to ride the whole deal out.
Another free gift with LSD is that you can have flashbacks in the upcoming years.
The chemical substance responds with other material you have in your body until one of those materials run out. The rest gets stuffed away in your system (your body fat or somewhere outside of your bloodvessels).
If you decide to do some diet and start to live healthy, your body is going to clean up all the junk what is still left, including drug reminants which get back into your system. That is what makes Rehabilitation very hard.
(whether you were an alcoholic or drugaddict or just posioned by alcohol or drugs)
I can’t find any place where i said that drugs are bad. I mentioned there is a good use for drugs and there are risks. I personally think using harddrugs for leisure is not worth the risk.
With softdrugs i am not convinced about the kind of pleasure they offer as well. I hardly could enjoy the conversations with my friends when they were stoned. Nothing but nonsense came out of their minds. They enjoyed their trip and well, i considered it their personal right so i did not demanded from them to quit it as they did also not forced me to join (they tried to convince me but i resisted) them. When they consumed mushrooms, they were even hallucinating a lot more. There was no way to reason with them, neither when serious shit was going on and that last thing is what specially does it:you can’t get back in control if you have to. This counts for alcohol abuse as well.
I think my drama was within acceptable proportions if there was any drama at all.