Or use SunVox for some days that even doesn’t have VST support 
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No one said to present Renoise with a piano roll. Like it was said before, we already have two fantastic piano roll tools as well as other tools that go far beyond the native capabilities.
I don’t see the problem with wanting more from a program that one is already heavily invested in. The tribalism is crazy to me. There is a whole idea and suggestions thread but yet there are users here who IMO just like things the way they are, no problem, everyone is entitled to there opinions, likes and dislikes but I think it’s backwards to NOT want something that you love to grow. I’m excited about ANY update or feature added to Renoise regardless of whether I plan on using it or not.
And FL, Live, Studio One, etc suck ass compared to where Renoise is currently. Just for the record.
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Yup, yup! So much great (electronic) music has been made with people with limited equipment and nothing else to do.
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Wait, is this theoretical piano roll supposed to plot notes when you hit the keys? There are actually ways to externally add functionality like this, and I’d be down for starting a thread and finding weird (/ freeware) solutions for people who feel like they can’t properly make music without one.
Honestly, it’s all possible. Just with a few small caveats
As long as it makes sense regarding music creation and as long as it doesn’t destroy the concept. For example, a dancing sprite like suggested before wouldn’t help in terms of music creation. And there are a lot of other senseless suggestions and/or wishes. IMHO a piano roll is one of them, too… 
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I almost legitimately want the dancing pianotroll 
just imagine…
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One could make the dancing sprite with lua tools scripting.
I might need a dancing sprite. For those times when I’m listening to an endless(sucky) loop and staring at my screen 
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Perhaps one can code it as an independent standalone app, that gets input and triggers from a virtual midi bus, that renoise or other daw sends notes and ccs to.
I just wasted 20 minutes attempting to use the broken modern internet to find a video of that famous MOD with the dancing figure encoded into the patterns so that i could say ‘let’s do this but with a dancing pianotroll’. Now this is just a meta-post about trying to make a frivolous post.
Closest i got was this:
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That was something! FL Chan can retire.
I wonder if people go to FL and Ableton forums to beg for tracker workflow to be implemented.
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I have previously suggested this:
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Not sure how to embed stuff from Twitter, but this?
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Impulse Tracker!pic.twitter.com/bzt4lXkcwS
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That’s not the one i had in mind, it was on Milky/FT2, but it’s similar.
The track i had in mind was more of a trance/EDM style beat.
They do, just hang around in the forums and you’ll find more than one person suggesting a tracker view.
How is that working out for them?
You can find posts in the FL Studio and Ableton Live forums with people requesting a tracker mode or .xm .mod compatibility. There are posts from late 2000s if you Google it, but also newer ones, from 2020 onwards.
The children yearn for trackers.
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FL Studio has plans for a tracker view on their roadmap, the Bitwig forum has an active request with upvotes, idk about Live people. People from these communities are much more open and interested in workflow and feature upgrades. The only place where I see people actually arguing in favor of not having upgrades is here.
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the kids are alright
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