To top it off:ReWire support was implemented for a reason.
Sounds good !
I always think it’s kinda strange how people have such very strong feelings pro or con piano roll. Renoise currently doesn’t have one, that’s perfectly ok, but for me personally Renoise would be even better if it had one. That’s all. I’m really glad it’s the devs decision and ONLY the devs decision. Whatever feature they implement, some users will hate it and leave, some others will love it and buy. I hope the devs won’t be bothered by this, but rather just take the software the direction they consider the best. At least I think this is how Renoise became as awesome as it already is now.
It’s true that I moved to Berlin in order to work more closely with Renoise, but my role here has always been more of a supporting role. There’s a few things I’ve contributed to Renoise, such as the Repeater device, the Meta Mixer, working a bit on the plugin favorites, and some other small stuff. But mostly, I’m here handling the day-to-day email support, doing some occasional tweaking of web crap, brain-storming new ideas, testing alphas and betas, contributing a bit of content when I feel some inspiration, etc. These days, my main focus is Glitch 2 and other future “Illformed” projects.
As for other guys, there have obviously been lots of other people helping and contributing to Renoise over the years – you only have to look at the credits in the about box to see this. Most recently (in the last few years), sharevari (Erik) and kRAkEn/gORe (Lucio) have contributed tons of kickass stuff (and still continue to do so). Now danoise (Bjørn) is on-board to work with us more closely, to help with design and conceptual stuff, and especially contributing a ton of great ideas, concepts, and content for Renoise 3.0.
But overall, taktik is unquestionably the lead developer, and definitely the main guy driving this thing forward. As far as I’m concerned, without him there is no Renoise.
Funny you should mention this, but Glitch 2 is actually built on some core framework tech that comes directly from Renoise. In a very real sense, you also have taktik to thank for the existence of Glitch 2, 'cause I probably never would have managed to tackle all the cross-platform crap by myself.
ok guys, I’m fed up with all these speculations.
this is facts:
Entirely made using Renoise 3.0 alpha only.
I know the devs will kill me for publishing this, anyway this is all I can offer; the fact that I am releasing this song does not mean beta release is close in any way.
Is it gonna be a demo song?
If this indeed is facts, then indeed I was correct in my prediction, and indeed this is a very interesting and welcome new feature.
Thanks It-Alien, this is fantastic news! And it also dampened my speculation needs by 97%.
Don’t feel offended it-Alien…but uuh what does this actually prove …that renoise 3.0 is capable of creatin trance like tunes , we can’t really know what 's real time synthesis and/or rendered effetcs .
Really dig your other stuff though
I don’t care. I’m going to keep speculating about what might be in Renoise 3 even after it’s released. I’ve just got into the habit now.
lol i speculate this thread is gonna hit 1k before Jan 2014. Well that or get very close.
Alright, Renoise 3 will have a modular synth!
if not by the end of the week
(look back a page, there have been 30 posts in 24 hours)
Ha! The day it released, Daed and I were like, “Hmmm. Methinks there’s a bit of Renoise in this new Glitch.” Looks like we were right.
There is no doubt in my mind that track had to be composed using a piano roll. Great news!
Not only that, the track is obviously so complex in its nature that only a linear arranger could make it possible.
And now when you say it, I speculate that we were probably fooled by It-Alien. He just made a more advanced maneuver than you did. In fact, he’s probably laughing at us right now. />
Shit, my 3% speculation fuel left has to be tanked and increased again. Because in this thread, I can’t be certain of anything anymore. />
My guess: Track was made using Bitwig
Well, in 2.5 there was much of the Lua stuff already. It was just hidden for us until 2.6, so there could still be some headroom for speculation on the hidden stuff.
But hey, Renoise 3.0 final will probably require an additional 6+ months after the first beta version is released. And speaking of Bitwig - if they adopt the Bitwigs’ idea of beta testing, then we’re looking at years of that phase.
(We could even speculate that Bitwig and Renoise have joined forces, but that’s a very long distance shot.)
Renoise 3.0 == Bitwig 1.0 omega
Let’s not forget they could implement it, but make it more or less “hidden” for those who can’t be tracking without smashing their computer if they see it. Or just have it as an option to click in the Preferences: Piano roll mode [on] [off]. Or they could compile a new software: More Renoisy - the conventional pianoroll edition DAW for 99.9% of all the music producers of the world.
But this issue is actually a serious cliffhanger, because if the devs have decided to go for it - then it could mean that they have decided that Renoise could and should reach for a larger audience, and a bigger userbase, generating more income and making it 100 times easier to market and distribute in music production magazines etc.
People who say that Renoise is a tracker doesn’t seem to imply that Renoise could be both a tracker and a conventional DAW, with such basic features that most people - no matter what they use - won’t have to try hard to learn the software. I personally believe that argument alone makes a very strong case for the pianoroll: as an actual means to get more people into “pure” tracking. They could start in the pianoroll mode, switch back and forth into alphanumeric mode, and discover the relationship and the connections between them, slowly adopting the alphanumeric tracker way of entering notes and automation.
Ideally, there would be a dedicated API just for this aspect of the software alone: how the user prefer to enter the actual note data. If people could code (in C++) their own pianorolls, score notation, whatever - problem would be gone, everybody would be happy.