I just bought two copies of Renoise. I will more than likely buying more in the next month or so(if I can convince some friends to switch)…
But, I do like the idea of a donation feature. I’d also love the ability for a group of us to “buy the developers off”. For instance, if I wanted modular routing functionality like Buzz, more features from IT, a linux port, the ability to modify everything from the pattern editor, the “insta-breakcore button”, multiple monitor support etc…I could raise enough money for the developers to implement it.
Another idea for a fundraiser is to get the resident gurus to make a special renoise-only album and sell it on cd and provide the rns files. (With professional mastering…)
I bought a t-shirt some days ago. Spreadshirt.com’s base price for that shirt with print is ¤15.90 and the Renoise shop sells it for ¤15.90, so that’s a cool ¤0 going straight into Renoise development.
I’m not so sure about a donate button… it could send the message that Renoise is in trouble. On the other hand… nothing would please me more if TakTik was able to make a good living coding Renoise and if donations would mean less time spent down at the saw mill (guessing) and more time spent developing then I’m all for it.
Thank you, Phonkey. Now I don’t have to quote taktik.
But anyway, in stead of donating directly to renoise, why not donate to SDcompo, so they can buy RNS licences and give them away as prizes?
Or, even better, simply buy a licence, host a compo yourself and donate the licence to somebody who don’t yet have it. Or anybody on the forum who writes “I can’t afford Renoise right now”, as there actually are a few of those.
I don’t want to buy features, I don’t want to bribe you, I just want to send $10. Think of it as free drink money if I ever met any of you in a pub or club. I’m sure many feel the same way? Those who don’t, f**** off?
“buy them off” was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I was thinking out loud(on the board).
Renoise is closed-source. So the only way for me(or anyone else) to have additional features added(or improved) is to request them or vote for them when the time comes. Or convince everyone that it is needed and thus the “community votes”.
Here is the scenario I was thinking about:
If I(or a group) REALLY wanted something to be implemented, the developers could be contacted. Renoise is a commercial entity and the contact would be a business to business interaction. So if the developers said the job would take 40 hours at $$$/hour, we could raise the money necessary.
This is strictly a hypothetical situation regarding a problem that doesn’t (yet) exist.
Maybe there will be a full sdk available at some point, where a programmer(like myself) could add whatever functionality desired without bugging the Renoise guys?
Let’s say you are quoted 80 hours, at $50 an hour. That’s $4000. Let’s say that money is good to go. Now what? Do you pay up front? What if the feature isn’t delivered? Do you pay after and screw Renoise over by not paying after all? Do you expect profits after this feature is implemented / resold to the rest who didn’t pool the money together? Too many logistics that will result in chaos.
@vectorarray: In the past. There has been public posts asking for more Renoise developers to step up and join the team. If you are any good and actually have the time, perhaps that offer is still valid? Most who pull the “do it yourself” card, don’t have what it takes, or recoil in horror when they are called on their boasting.
It is typical in business transactions to use a neutral 3rd party. The 3rd party would be judge of what is “finished”. As far as money goes, a simple contract could be drawn up. i.e. Half up front…half when delivered. Why would I or anyone else expect profits after paying to implement an idea? Does the poster who suggests some hot new feature after winning a beatbattle feel entitled to a share of the profits when Renoise sells better than ever? I mean it was HIS idea.
I have not been using Renoise nor have I been on this board for long. I have never seen a post calling for developers. Maybe there should be a dedicated stickie or page if the developers need help?
Am I pulling a “card”? I don’t see why you feel urged to attack me for offering an idea. An idea that I even clarified to be pure speculation. Again, I was just tossing an idea out there. My two licenses of Renoise does not entitle me to ram my opinions on the developers. Even, if I gave $10,000. But, if a mutual agreement could be made, where’s the harm? IT and Buzz both died on the vine. I feel strongly about Renoise and would love to see it flourish. $$$ helps.
For the record, I am gainfully employed in the software industry.
I wasn’t attacking you. Sorry if you feel that way. If anything, my lack of skills to contribute are where my heart is coming from and I always feel I am speaking to a mirror. Perhaps I’m a narcissist? Haha.
I don’t speak for anyone here except myself. This thread is a revival of the same idea thoroughly discussed and rejected here. At the end of the day, I am meerly interested in the idea of a “tip jar” as eloquently put by Bantai.