New tool (3.1.1): Piano Roll Editor v3.0 build 136 (February 2019)


(Raul (ulneiz)) #1

WHAT IS THE “PIANO ROLL EDITOR”?

The “Piano Roll Editor”, or also called “PRE” as an abbreviation, is a tool for the representation and advanced editing of notes for the DAW Renoise (current version 3.1.1 of 64 bit). It is a piano roll arranged vertically with a top control bar, an intermediate grid for the roll and another bottom panel that represents a horizontal virtual piano, along with another smaller mirror piano on the top of the roll.

Piano Roll Editor 64bit v2.0 build 124... a original tool by ulneiz

The PRE program is distributed in 64-bit XRNX format through a “Demo Version”, free, so that anyone can try it and through another “Full Version”, not free, which requires a personalized use license.

Please, to get the Full Version, contact the author ulneiz to buy your personalized use license.

PIANO ROLL EDITOR. DOWNLOAD THE BASIC USER GUIDE.

The Basic User Guide contains all the necessary information to know the tool, how to install it and use it properly. The Basic User Guideis available in English and Spanish. To read the basic user guide, you can follow the following links:

User Guide v3.0.136 (recent)

  1. Read the Piano Roll Editor Basic User Guide English version (HTML format).
  2. Leer Piano Roll Editor Guía Básica del Usuario versión en español (HTML format).
User Guide v2.0.124 (old)
  1. Read the Piano Roll Editor Basic User Guide English version (HTML format).
  2. Leer Piano Roll Editor Guía Básica del Usuario versión en español (HTML format).
User Guide v1.0.117 (old)
  1. Read the Piano Roll Editor Basic User Guide English version (HTML format).
  2. Leer Piano Roll Editor Guía Básica del Usuario versión en español (HTML format).

Please read the Basic User Guide before trying it or before relating any questions in this forum!

Piano Roll Editor 64bit v2.0 build 124. Chord Builder.

PIANO ROLL EDITOR. DOWNLOAD THE DEMO VERSION (64bit, xrnx format).
How to install it?

The “Demo Version” includes all the capabilities of this tool, but includes a time limitation and an informative pop-up window. Please read the User’s Basic Guide first before downloading this tool.

To install: install the tool just like any other, by double clicking on the XRNX file or dragging it over the Renoise window. Remember that it is only compatible with the 64bit version of Renoise. You can download the demo version here:

Demo Version v3.0.136 (recent)
Download the Piano Roll Editor 64bit v3.0 build 136 (Demo Version XRNX format).

Demo Version v2.0.124 (old)

Download the Piano Roll Editor 64bit v2.0 build 124 (Demo Version XRNX format).

Demo Version v1.0.117 (old)

Download the Piano Roll Editor 64bit v1.0 build 117 (Demo Version XRNX format).

PIANO ROLL EDITOR. GET THE FULL VERSION: SUPPORT THE DEVELOPER!!!
The “Full Version” comes with all the capabilities of this tool and without any restriction. This Full Version requires a “Personalized Use License”, through a “Registration File” which costs 10€ (euros).
If you are interested in getting the Full Version and thus support the developer, send me a private message and I will inform you of the details…

Please, seriously consider supporting the development and maintenance of the Piano Roll Editor buying a license. Keep in mind that it takes a lot of time, effort and money to build!!!
…ulneiz

PIANO ROLL EDITOR. UPDATE HISTORY.

Piano Roll Editor v3.0 build 136 (February 2019)
  • Added: Chord Builder with 96 chords slots and 99 banks to custom chords (9504 slots to trigger custom chords).
  • Added: Chord Builder is now compatible with MIDI Input.
  • Added: Chord Builder’s virtual piano now allows you to add / remove the notes that make up the chord.
  • Added: Chord Builder allows to block the instrument.
  • Added: PRE now allows the flexible granular selection of a range of lines, through the right numbered column.
  • Added: select a range of lines with [CTRL + B] keyboard command. Also compatible with MIDI input (Piano Roll Editor/Cut-Copy-Paste).
  • Modified: marked black notes on the scroll bar.
  • Added: marked in green color the selection of range of lines.
  • Added: now it is possible to play/record two instruments separately, one playing normal and another playing chords (padlock inside Chord Builder).
  • Modified: two ways to select multiple lines: use the blocks, or use a range of lines.
  • Modified: optimization of some LUA classes for the initial load of repeated images.
  • Modified: more direct change of the notes with the mouse when inserting on notes already written.
  • Modified: improved superimposition of the notes in the TR mode. Now the notes closest to the selected track have more priority to be seen.
  • Modified: improved readjustment of the width of the upper bar according to the size of the window.
  • Added: the buttons to cut, copy and paste now allow to control the selection of the note columns (one note column, all note columns) through the central button of the joystick.
  • Added: insert/delete pattern sequence commands. Also compatible with MIDI input (Piano Roll Editor/Roll/Data).
  • Added: [CAPITAL] and [A] keyboard commands also remove the Note-OFFs.
  • Added: new keyboard commands [CTRL-1]-[CTRL-9 …0] and [SHIFT-1]-[SHIFT-9 …0] to change the size of the window and the number of lines of the blocks.
  • Modified: track and instrument navigator through popups.
  • Modified: new insertion behavior of the Note-OFF from the mouse. Now clean the leftovers.
  • Added: new option to insert “notes + note-OFFs” (also for chords) within the “Note Type” checkbox.
  • Added: the keyboard commands of the letters [Z, S, X, D, C, V…] now insert the notes (without sound). Commands to regulate the octaves of the keyboard.
  • Fixed: resolved 3 bugs related to block copying at the end of the number of lines per pattern, and the jump between the sequence of repeated patterns.
  • Fixed: resolved a bug related with the index when reaching the maximum number of instruments.
  • Modified: new protection algorithm. All registered users must update their Registration File for this new version!!!
  • Modified: User Guide updated.
  • Fixed: code review and small bugs fixed. This version is very stable!
Piano Roll Editor v2.0 build 124 (December 2018)
  • Added: control for automatic capture of the volume of the notes.
  • Added: large expansion of controls for MIDI input. Now most controls can be controlled from the MIDI device.
  • Added: volume/panning/delay sliders now also jump to the modified line.
  • Added: randomize parameters to humanize in Preferences/Advanced Operations.
  • Added: inclusion of Chord Builder module in Preferences/Chord Builder.
  • Added: inclusion of 4 new skins for Renoise.
  • Added: inclusion of 2 new styles for PRE: “dark” and “light”.
  • Modified: new icons in the top panel and small display arrangements.
  • Modified: improved viewing on the reproduction line. Now it also covers the side columns (easier to understand visually).
  • Modified: restructuring the entire GUI to accept slightly larger text fonts for 2K monitors (at least 2 points more than the default font size; modify in “PatternConfig.xml” and “Config.xml”).
  • Modified: acceleration when inserting notes in TR mode.
  • Modified: User Guide updated.
  • Fixed: code review and small bugs fixed.
Piano Roll Editor v1.0 build 117 (October 2018)
  • First Release.

Work in progress: Piano roll
(fladd) #2

Very cool! Price?


(ffx) #3

I like that it is vertical!


(Raul (ulneiz)) #4

Very cool! Price?

Thanks!Look in your inbox.

I like that it is vertical!

Thanks ffx!!!I’m sure you’ll have fun with this demo tool. Enjoy it!


(Ben Dover) #5

Wow!

Seems like anamazing tool, thanks for all your efforts.


(Raul (ulneiz)) #6

Wow!

Seems like anamazing tool, thanks for all your efforts.

Thanks Ben!

I hope that the Basic User Guide in English is well understood.

Enjoy the Demo!


(stoiximan) #7

Looks cool but i need Renoise 3.1.1 to test it.When is it going to be avalable?


(Raul (ulneiz)) #8

Looks cool but i need Renoise 3.1.1 to test it.When is it going to be avalable?

Forgive the question, but do you mean the Renoise version? Renoise 3.1.1 was released at the beginning of the year 2017. The packaging is dated February 6, 2017. Go your Backstage to download it!

I suppose that PRE is also compatible with the demo version of Renoise but it must be the 64 bit version.


(vega) #9

Not to be That Guy™ but distributing a demo version which is basically just a doublelly zipped folder of the source code doesn’t bode well for getting people to pay you for your work. Don’t get me wrong, I’m more than willing to pay for this for the great work you’ve done, and if you weren’t asking for money but instead had a donation button I’d be more than down, but given you’re distributing a plugin among dozens of other, some more complicated, plugins that I’m sure you use for free it sorta irks me that you’d ask the same community that you benefit freely from to pay you.

I’m studying Computer and Electrical engineering right now, so I know more than anyone that you deserve to be paid for this hard work but context matters, and in this case youre just repaying the community that you’ve benefited from before.

so please make it a donation button both by the download and on launch of the plugin. I’ll happily buy you a beer.

Just my oppinon though. This is truly great work and I hope you continue to improve it! It’s amazing you could pull this off in LUA at all.


#10

Not to be That Guy™ but distributing a demo version which is basically just a doublelly zipped folder of the source code doesn’t bode well for getting people to pay you for your work

Where is the plain text lua source code in the zip? Looks to me like compiled binary lua bytecode files, surely a ‘computer/electrical’ student engineer guy would know this however? :unsure:


(Raul (ulneiz)) #11

Hi vega!

I respect your opinion but everything is much simpler, believe me…Anyway, do not worry. As you said, there are many shared tools.You have a lot of free content at your fingertips.Courage with your studies!

Regards!


(joule) #12

The first time I started it nothing happened when clicking the boxes. And the second time it only shows the keyboard legend. I have no idea what to do.


(Raul (ulneiz)) #13

The first time I started it nothing happened when clicking the boxes. And the second time it only shows the keyboard legend. I have no idea what to do.

Press the OFF button (top left), it must be “ON” for the roll to show things. If you want to edit, you must have the pattern editor with Edit Mode enabled, press [ESC]. You must edit with a loaded instrument.There is an User Guide in English, if you want to continue testing.After a few minutes the tool will self-lock. If you want to continue using it. Uninstall and reinstall it.

Try something else. Load a new song already composed. Load the PRE, turn it ON and press the NC button, so that it switches to TR mode, it will show 4 + 4 tracks around the selected track. In preferences, you can increase it to “-16 TR +16” to show a greater range of tracks. Now play the song.

Edit: Go to User Guide: 2.1. On or off button: ON/OFF.

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Button ON/OFF, in different states


(joule) #14

Ah, thanks… now it’s working.

(It seems to be a step sequencer, rather. Similar to pianolol.)


(Raul (ulneiz)) #15

Ah, thanks… now it’s working.

(It seems to be a step sequencer, rather. Similar to pianolol.)

Oh well, I’m glad it works for you.

I made an early prototype long ago that instead of moving the line in the progress of the song’s reproduction, it moved the whole roll. But then the data moves (the slots of the notes) and does not allow you to comfortably read the position of the notes while the song is played. For some reason I did not like the result, it involved moving too many things. In fact I would love Renoise to have an optional scrolling mode similar to PRE, where the song is played but the pattern editor parameters do not move, only the line of the reproduction position is moved.


(ffx) #16

You can disable pattern scrolling using one of the button below the button right next to the record button. Oh man , I always forget about that, so you can actually edit while playing continues.


(Raul (ulneiz)) #17

You can disable pattern scrolling using one of the button below the button right next to the record button. Oh man , I always forget about that, so you can actually edit while playing continues.

If you have the PRE window in the foreground, you can use your keyboard commands. Look in the following link of the User’s Guide: 7. Keyboard Commands. Navigation, control and editing.

Key commands. Go to the “Preferences” window of the PRE and click on the “Keyboard Commands” tab.

PRE has more than 40 keyboard commands of its own, many of them common with Renoise. For example, press [Scroll] to change the playback mode (follow the player’s position in the pattern).

Examine all keyboard commands well. You will see that there are some unpublished functions.


(joule) #19

I made an early prototype long ago that instead of moving the line in the progress of the song’s reproduction, it moved the whole roll.

I’m pretty sure you need to build a canvas-like system to make a piano roll. And having it scroll in realtime isn’t that important. Typically, I think there’s only a playback line scrolling.


(Raul (ulneiz)) #20

I’m pretty sure you need to build a canvas-like system to make a piano roll. And having it scroll in realtime isn’t that important. Typically, I think there’s only a playback line scrolling.

PRE works with the roll still, static, and following the playback line with a marker superimposed. Possibly the cleanest design graphically. So you can read much of the pattern (or the entire pattern) from the scroll without moving, following the playback.

Regarding moving the roll, it is only necessary to enclose it in a surrounding frame (a row or a column), and move it playing with the spacing value against another object (another row or column).

From what I’ve been able to experience, the graphic section of the viewbuilder is very fast graphically, as long as you have everything loaded into memory (edit: and not use textures). The only “problem” are the functions that access data: notes, parameters, etc. at the moment of wanting to update them massively almost “in real time”.PRE loads and updates data on a mesh of 120 x 512 buttons, without counting the rest of the objects.That’s 61440 buttons and the GUI works extraordinarily fast.If something works “a little slow”, it is because of the functions that access certain data.

By the way, I recently updated my graphics card. To give you an idea I had an ATI 6950 of 2GB. Now I have a secondhand Nvidia GTX 1070 8GB, much more powerful, and Renoise works almost the same. It is very clear that the CPU is a determinant in Renoise, and when creating these programs, the functions that update the data must be optimized to the maximum.It gives a bit of anger that so much GPU power is not used at all.

Even if it made the roll twice as big, with twice as many objects, it would not graphically resent, but it should handle twice as much data in each update. All this made me decide that PRE would work with the static roll and the playback line moving. It is easier to see the patterns still, it is only necessary to get used to the transition between patterns, or between sections of each pattern, according to the number of lines on the roll.

6_3.gif

This is the effect of the automatic movement of the reproduction. The line follows the reproduction, the approach that I have always followed.

(although the capture of the GIF is very slow).


(Raul (ulneiz)) #21

Not to be That Guy™ but distributing a demo version which is basically just a doublelly zipped folder of the source code doesn’t bode well for getting people to pay you for your work. Don’t get me wrong, I’m more than willing to pay for this for the great work you’ve done, and if you weren’t asking for money but instead had a donation button I’d be more than down, but given you’re distributing a plugin among dozens of other, some more complicated, plugins that I’m sure you use for free it sorta irks me that you’d ask the same community that you benefit freely from to pay you.

I’m studying Computer and Electrical engineering right now, so I know more than anyone that you deserve to be paid for this hard work but context matters, and in this case youre just repaying the community that you’ve benefited from before.

so please make it a donation button both by the download and on launch of the plugin. I’ll happily buy you a beer.

Just my oppinon though. This is truly great work and I hope you continue to improve it! It’s amazing you could pull this off in LUA at all.

Hello Vega again.

I did not have time before answering your opinion, since your " entire opinion" can confuse someone… First of all this is a “tool” or program based on LUA, in XRNX format. An XRNX is the same as a ZIP, a compressed container file, with folders with other files, generally in LUA, XML, TXT, images and so on. LUA is a dependent code, depends on a host (Renoise). It can not be an executable with an executable package, such as renoise.exe, for example. Its format is an XRNX (or ZIP) container. Do not expect any programmer to pack LUA into an executable for a Renoise tool. Therefore, your first comment does not make sense.If you want to learn how to make your tools, follow the instructions in the tools forum. You will need time to learn, but with your studies it will be very easy for you.

On your comment on the role of the Renoise community, it seems that in your second comment in these forums you speak on behalf of her. This is a bit strange. A person who has not contributed anything here, is telling another person how to do things, just another who has been contributing things here in these forums for a long time.Yes, I take advantage of the knowledge that I learn for myself and to share it, and I do more to share the knowledge than to share “tools”.You will find many comments of mine asking, discussing and sharing knowledge.

But one thing that differentiates me from you, is that I would never demand someone who does a job and wants some kind of support, that everything is free, much less adding a donation button. You speak of context. Look at the context. You have two options to choose from: A ) free, B )donation. Do you think that people are so sweet and born in a fantasy world and choose option B )?I would love it to be like that, but reality is not like that. Many people want it all for free, and they download it with all the geta in the world, without thanking, or even protesting because it is not fair what they wanted. The worrying thing is that you are studying topics related to computer science, and you must assert your work…It’s not that I care what you do, but it’s good to remember.

Hopefully in these forums there would be people willing to pay, to support, and to promote projects, but unfortunately for the community that you defend so muchit is not like that, everything is free and only “4” people make “tools”, the rest, to download for free. It is curious that those people who do not contribute anything, only download, you do not mention them.I wish there was more variety: free tools, and payment tools, since they are many very different. In any case, if you do not test the programs, or even if you do not want how to use them, you will not know how to value what you have in front of you.But do not worry, there will be hardly any payment tools. Nobody in their right mind loses their time in these things, since few people in the community are willing to support.I am aware of that.

On the other hand, you take for granted that I use the tools of others, as if you knew me or you will use my computer.But I ask you, why do I want others’ tools, if I make the ones I want? Why do you think I’ve learned to do it?

As I said before, I respect your opinion, but I do not share it. It’s all much simpler, if you want to support a developer, support it, otherwise, do not support it, but do not tell him what he has to do and do not tangle, how to do it and much less values his efforts by paying with a beer, as if you knew him and nor are you leading a faculty group of Computer.Maybe he does not like beer and this is not a cocktail bar, they are forums.

The people are free to do what they want with their time and work. If you do not like it, you know what to do.A good way to start is to do it yourself…