Renoise completely without mouse

[spacedrone808 (TrackerNinja808)]

Is it possible?
Your opinions on this topic.
Maybe some life hacks.

[blo0dcl0t]

Yes (theoretically), you can assign hot keys and custom keyboard to navigate around.
There’s a couple of videos that showcase navigation (almost) entirely with the KB.
My only question would be how to edit samples inside the sample window via the KB? Likely possible

[eretsua]

According to Windows Central you can control your mouse via your keyboard in Win10 (and presumably 11). So if that’s works for you then you should be able to control Renoise with just a keyboard.

Once I set up a midi controller to control Renoise. Took quite a bit of effort to get it going but then it was glorious. Though I was after performing with Renoise, not composing.

[spacedrone808 (TrackerNinja808)]

@blo0dcl0t

couple of videos

Can you drop links to them, please?

[bruh]

The first couple of videos in Groovin in G’s Renoise playlist. This is an incredible channel regardless; clear explanations, fun edits and charisma. Recommend it if you haven’t stumbled upon it yet

[spacedrone808 (TrackerNinja808)]

@bruh

incredible channel regardless;

Yeah,yeah he is a blast, of course i’m subscribed.

[casiino]

Clear all the keybinds and take your time and set everything from scratch. A few tools here and there because they are out there.

I practically NEVER use the mouse

[spacedrone808 (TrackerNinja808)]

@casiino

Clear all the keybinds

I’m already learnt default keys, with some minor remaping. Scavenging web for more information.

[casiino]

I’m just a megalomaniac when it comes to personal customization lol

Here are a few tools that I use:

New Tool (3.3): value stepper

Hello everyone! I’m new to Renoise and one thing I was missing is to be able to raise/lower values with keyboard inside the editor without having to input exact values. So I wrote a small tool to solve this and to get familiar with the API. value stepper [value_stepper] Adjust values via keyboard by a set amount. Similar to the Transpose One Note Up inside Renoise but works for other values as well such as instrument number, volume, panning, delay and effect parameters. Provides four key-bi…

This one is a God send

GitHub - triss/org.tris.SliceStretcher.xrnx: Stretch slices to match the...

Personally requested this one.

New Tool (3.1): PakettiR3

Decided to wipe the introduction to this, because not many people will have the cpu cycles to get through it and realize what these all do. I would instead recommend checking out PakettiR3 animated GIF album athttps://imgur.com/a/JTLnZ In fact, I’ll just post the animated GIFs here so you can see what’s happening. I’ll keep editing this original posting to allow for more understanding, but will refrain from posting the full keyboard listings. So basically what I’m now doing is… I’ve made Paket…

Haven’t explored this one completely but I use to load FX without having to search for them everytime via keybind

New Tool (3.0): Vsti From Menu

Download On Tools Page: Tools Page note: requires a new song to be loaded/ started after initial install to create the menus. latest beta: ledger.scripts.VstiFromMenu_V1.84.xrnx New search boxes: [search fx] What it does: Load Vsti`s from right-click menus of the instrument box and fx in mixer “right-click menu” and DSP lane “right-click menu” Gives custom search boxes for instrument plugins and effects Gives two shortcuts to navigate instrument plugin presets. Has a menu to the renoise…

Can load plugin from a menu but can also keybind any plugin you want to auto load it

[blo0dcl0t]

Yeah just look for the grooving in g videos where he goes over the essential hot keys, very good stuff

[spacedrone808 (TrackerNinja808)]

@casiino

Haven’t explored this one completely but I use to load FX without having to search for them everytime via keybind

Thanks for provided links!
Value Stepper is known to me, but as for Paketti… it looks like it is not compatible with latest version of Renoise.

[spacedrone808 (TrackerNinja808)]

@blo0dcl0t

grooving in g videos

already 've done it )

[unless]

I’ve seen my value stepper tool mentioned here already but I’d add that the motivation behind most of my other tools is to help a keyboard-only workflow as well (most notably “command_palette”) You can read about all of them in one place in my manual.

unless games / unless_renoise · GitLab

[spacedrone808 (TrackerNinja808)]

Thanks for neat link, need to observe it in detail!

UPD. Man, this is awesome reminds me VIM editor.
But in command palette i already run into two crashes, trying to deselect selection and jumping to specified sample number. i’m on v3.4.3.

[unless]

Thanks for reporting @spacedrone808, command palette 2.0 was a major rework and it definitely is still a bit rough around the edges. However, the errors you mentioned should be fixed now.

Any further feedback is well appreciated as I don’t have as much time to test it myself as I’d like.

Thanks!

[spacedrone808 (TrackerNinja808)]

@unless

bit rough around the edges

Renoise team should definitely include your stuff in stock version of software.

[esaruoho]

i think i have a version of paketti floating around that is compatible with the latest version of Renoise.

[Logickin (Accipiter Nova)]

I am curious about this question:

I have heard that in many tracker communities about a mouse free workflow, but as far as I remembered, even trackers in Amiga also supports mouse.

Since my workflow for trackers is a mixture of mouse, typing and midi keyboard, I wanna know why would anyone want to have a keyboard only workflow?

[slujr (•X∑NøB∆B∆•••)]

@Logickin

why would anyone want to have a keyboard only workflow?

Speed/efficiency and wrist/hand ergonomics, I’d reckon

[Logickin (Accipiter Nova)]

@slujr

wrist/hand ergonomics

This sounds makes sense at first, but as a developer who have used eclipse before, I have a doubt if full keyboard workflow really more ergonomic than a mouse, for a couple of reasons:

1. To avoid conflict of the key strokes, sometime you need to assign things like ctrl + alt + y to do a specific function, which stress your hand into a weird position.
2. For navigation, instead of a point and click, you have to rapidly typing the arrow keys to select a specific cell, which also hurts your finger in a long run.
3. ergonomic Mouses do exist, and I would definitely invest one of I worry about the postures.

I am not someone who use keyboard only workflow; tell me more about how you guys use this kind of workflow for better efficiency. I don’t want simple answer without explaining like “less switching over devices.” or “read the docs to see how shortcut works.” which are vague, and I want to see your experience and why you ended up ditching mouse, to convince me doing that.